Do you think DRM has changed?

[EnV4Fun]

Wow, is that what this world has come to? Can't we have a good time without having a phone attached to our palms? I think the first time security takes a ballpeen hammer to one of those phones it may clue some folks in. It really is totally uncalled for as if folks want to take pictures/videos for their LS web site, email signature or family christmas card they could easily do it in their guest room. We have been told by one of the staff that the $500 bikini/diamond necklace crowd are the worst tippers and have the worst attitudes towards the staff. I know Desire has always been, live and let live, but if this new crowd is intimidating the old crowd then it is time to enforce the camera ban and start making some areas/times "no bathing suits".
Frank

Unfortunately - that has been our most recent experience.

THat being said - we are hoping (STRONGLY) that this will dissipate on our trip planned in 2025. Otherwise - sadly - we may be "Hedo Bound" from there on out.

[EnV4Fun]

the $500 bikini/diamond necklace crowd

We call them " the housewives of Desire"

Now THAT is FUNNY!

[travmex]

What’s the first question women ask when they go to a function - what will everyone else be wearing. Conformity matters.
When virtually everyone is nude it can be a little uncomfortable to be the only person wearing something. When almost everyone is wearing bottoms it can become uncomfortable to be nude - even when it is allowed.
Convincing yourself you have a positive reason to join the ‘bottoms set’ that makes you feel better - like ‘I feel sexier’ - rather than a negative reason - like I am not comfortable - is human nature.
Less than 30% full nude on many days, very little PDS round the pool area and beach…….Is RM changing……definitely.
Well, maybe that is not really an accurate statement…….because I think it has already changed. I doubt it will change back.

[canuck63]

We just returned from 8 nights and we would have to agree. Way too many bathing suits/bikinis, we even saw a couple of one piece suits. The social aspect has definitely changed with the younger crowd or as we referred the Temptation crowd sticking together, staying dressed and sometimes even giving sideways looks and comments about and to those that chose to be naked. People vaping everywhere even though no smoking and no vaping is a rule. When one of our friends asked for an ashtray in the disco staff acted shocked when he said "everyone else is vaping why can't I smoke" seems one rule gets ignored while the other is enforced. Also witnessed the cameras and people filming in areas that are supposed to be forbidden. If security isn't up to the job maybe it's time for the "seasoned veterans" to enforce these rules and make sure security knows we won't accept the disrespect and blatant entitlement shown by some of the newer guests. After all if it weren't for the vets they wouldn't be where they are today, the hotel and the new guests. One suggestion that was made was to make the old pool the "prude pool" with no entertainment and music and the new area the "nude pool" where all the action is. It's not like that concept hasn't worked elsewhere and would it would at least give staff at the old pool a few more guests in their area so they aren't sitting around bored all day. If you want to be dressed stay at the prude pool, if you want to be at the new pool, GET NAKED!! That goes for the hot tub as well. JMO

[914travelers]

We just returned from 8 nights and we would have to agree. Way too many bathing suits/bikinis, we even saw a couple of one piece suits. The social aspect has definitely changed with the younger crowd or as we referred the Temptation crowd sticking together, staying dressed and sometimes even giving sideways looks and comments about and to those that chose to be naked. People vaping everywhere even though no smoking and no vaping is a rule. When one of our friends asked for an ashtray in the disco staff acted shocked when he said "everyone else is vaping why can't I smoke" seems one rule gets ignored while the other is enforced. Also witnessed the cameras and people filming in areas that are supposed to be forbidden. If security isn't up to the job maybe it's time for the "seasoned veterans" to enforce these rules and make sure security knows we won't accept the disrespect and blatant entitlement shown by some of the newer guests. After all if it weren't for the vets they wouldn't be where they are today, the hotel and the new guests. One suggestion that was made was to make the old pool the "prude pool" with no entertainment and music and the new area the "nude pool" where all the action is. It's not like that concept hasn't worked elsewhere and would it would at least give staff at the old pool a few more guests in their area so they aren't sitting around bored all day. If you want to be dressed stay at the prude pool, if you want to be at the new pool, GET NAKED!! That goes for the hot tub as well. JMO

Wow... we will be there next weekend, hoping for a different experience, but Temptations vibe is definitely not what we are looking for.
Years ago they used to issue stickers to tape over the phones. I read on Kindle a lot, wouldn't want to make anyone uncomfortable, so if it makes even one guest feel safer it's worth it.

We also noticed yellow bracelets are almost universally clothed. I get that everyone moves at own pace, but how are they supposed to feel comfortable nude if no one else is. If that's the way it's going, we might give Hedo another look.

[kjc]

It’s less sexy because more nudist non lifestyle people go. And the more of this that happens the more the lifestyle people shy away. Supply and demand. Seems cold but Thems the facts. 40 plus trips so we are not just throwing this out.

[ninaandfrank]

I don't see how that can be the case when there is very little nudity anymore. The most obvious change is that folks are now wearing swim suits. Wouldn't the "nudists" as you put be naked?

It’s less sexy because more nudist non lifestyle people go. And the more of this that happens the more the lifestyle people shy away. Supply and demand. Seems cold but Thems the facts. 40 plus trips so we are not just throwing this out.

[Yeipi]

I don't see how that can be the case when there is very little nudity anymore. The most obvious change is that folks are now wearing swim suits. Wouldn't the "nudists" as you put be naked?

Absolutely! The biggest challenge is the number of people who go to Desire and behave like if they were in a plain vanilla place.

[sexmex12]

Well damn, we hate to read how things are kind of getting less than more. We leave in about a month for our first time and did have great anticipation spending time with some like-minded people....

[ninaandfrank]

LOL, maybe the Holiday Inn was booked up....

I don't see how that can be the case when there is very little nudity anymore. The most obvious change is that folks are now wearing swim suits. Wouldn't the "nudists" as you put be naked?

Absolutely! The biggest challenge is the number of people who go to Desire and behave like if they were in a plain vanilla place.

[jjonnboy]

In June there were more board shorts than nude at the new pool. Mostly nude at the old pool, which had more PDA than I've seen previously. There were even quite a few board shorts in the jacuzzi when we went up in the afternoon for some fun. Maybe it was just the week or the mix, but that was our experience for the week.

[WesleyButtercup]

We have said on more than one occasion, it seems the reason for the change may be many people who have gone to Temptation heard about Desire, "graduated" from Temptation and brought their damn board shorts and clothing with them.

Not sure why, but the lack of clothing seemed to be a great equalizer. There you stand, chatting with others naked in the pool or wherever--wearing nothing but what you were born with--whether it be an impressive sight or not. It just seemed so much mo' betta when most people were naked and had to rely on their words/life's education (formal or informal) to express themselves.

When you're at Desire, never let your bathing suit get in the way of having to show you have a personality and can carry a conversation and have a brain. Use your words, not your pocketbook to show you have something going on ....

My .02

[yellowkodiak]

^^^EXACTLY

[ninaandfrank]

Buttercup, we just got back last week and couldn't agree more. Most of the folks we met who had bathing suits on were trying Desire for the first time from Temptation. Some of them liked it and some hated it. One of the staff members that we know well and likes us said that management has been getting many complaints from the younger guests that they are seeing nudity on the "temptation" side of the resort. Guess what folks it is Desire and there is no "Temptation" side of the resort. One young couple we met told us that they originally booked at Temptation as they usually do and got a free upgrade to Desire. When we asked tem if they would come back they said they prefer Temptation. Hopefully Desire will stay Desire and Temptation will stay Temptation and the two shall never mix.

We have said on more than one occasion, it seems the reason for the change may be many people who have gone to Temptation heard about Desire, "graduated" from Temptation and brought their damn board shorts and clothing with them.

Not sure why, but the lack of clothing seemed to be a great equalizer. There you stand, chatting with others naked in the pool or wherever--wearing nothing but what you were born with--whether it be an impressive sight or not. It just seemed so much mo' betta when most people were naked and had to rely on their words/life's education (formal or informal) to express themselves.

When you're at Desire, never let your bathing suit get in the way of having to show you have a personality and can carry a conversation and have a brain. Use your words, not your pocketbook to show you have something going on ....

My .02

[Powderfinger]

Just back a couple days ago, and the lack of nudity was startling. It has definitely been trending that way the past few years, but seeing ~80% clothed, several one-pieces, as well as more than half the women even keeping their tops on was jarring to say the least. And it didn't change for those that headed up to the hot tub. As the Better Half said sitting by the pool, looking out at it, you could be at any vanilla resort in Mexico and see the same view.