Well, I'm not going to stomp on you but I certainly don't see things the same way as you.
northernlightscpl wrote:If everyone took the same choice to stay clothed and go to enjoy everyone else who they hope are naked and part of the sexy experience and they found that everyone else had their clothes on and were not doing anything sexual, tell us how sexy that would be for you.
But everyone is not choosing to stay clothed. Why extrapolate to something that isn't going to happen? Even at 30% (which I find a little high from my experience), I don't think Desire is in danger of going vanilla.
At the price or pleasure of others, you are getting what you come for without (giving) being a part of the experience.
This seems strange to me. I don't view my nakedness (or any lack thereof) as a "fee" to be able to enjoy the atmosphere of Desire.
Personally, I couldn't care if people are clothed,
Sounds like you do...
but it is a turn off when up to 30% sometimes are. I have to question why they simply go to a nude breach to see others nude while they stay clothed.
I really don't think people are going to Desire in order to see people naked while keeping their clothes on and not "paying the price". They are going to Desire to experience a sexy environment. As you note with your suggestion of just going to a nude beach, nakedness isn't necessarily sexy. It *can* be but so can a lot of other things. I personally think it's arguably *more* sexy when my wife wears a sheer-when-wet bottom over just going bottomless. Seeing her hop up on the the bar and pull it aside with a sly "want to do a shot?", is smoking hot (IMHO). Yeah, if I just want to see bottomless women, I'd go to a nudist resort. I don't. I want to see women being sexy (slutty?) and who like to it dress things up in strings and outfits that say "look at this. Want some?"
By your argument, we should ditch the themes and just go naked in the disco too. The skimpy outfits and and kinky clothes couldn't be sexier than being fully naked could they? I'll answer that for you - yes, they can.
So, please don't get hung up on the percentage of people who are naked. They are not cheating and deriving pleasure from your nakedness that they somehow should have paid for. As you note, they are testing the waters, getting comfortable, etc. Why should that have any bearing on your enjoyment of the place?